pricing plans
Phil Gibson
the pricing plans are a bit wonky imo.
$10 should be something like 750 prompt and 1000 flow
$60 is just ridiculous. i used 500 within 1 week with somewhat heavy usage. i would never pay $60 out of spite as i outright refuse to obtain extra credits via flex because i feel that if im paying for a monthly subscription, then my credits should last a month. you need to be more realistic with your pricing. maybe something like 10, 15, 20, 25, etc so we can find the one that best suites us. and $10 for 300 prompts? bit of a joke mate.
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The thread starter is right. $15 is too little for 500 times, and $60 is a waste. If you don't want to increase the number of times $15, then you can provide a variety of price positioning options.
bspeagle
I'd pay $100 a month for true unlimited
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Bhavesh
Phil just get better at prompting mate and use the base cascade model it works
Gevik Nalbandian
First. Great job with Windsurf. There are a few things to consider with pricing. One is that different users will have varying experience levels making them more or less prone to understanding errors generated by the models. I have found myself in both camps depending on my expertise on the programming language, env etc… what drains credits is the endless loops. So they is a bigger hole to cover. So in the meantime a more generous set of credits would be allowed. Secondly the jump from $10 to $60 is big and it would be useful to have a middle tier.
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Bhavesh
Gevik Nalbandianhi Gevik I would say use the cascade models as they are really good. I'm halfway through the month and I've only used 300 cascades prompts for large stuff.
Gevik Nalbandian
Bhavesh I am not sure I fully agree. I do use the base model but it’s quite lacking. I find myself getting more out of my paid OpenAI ChatGPT than the base model. So along with pricing changes that I have suggested, being able to use other models (BYOapiK) would greatly help.
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Bhavesh
Gevik Nalbandian Very strange, what are you building that it requires expensive model to just achieve the output?
Gevik Nalbandian
Bhavesh maybe we're talking about 2 different things. As we know Windsurf (paid version) allows for the use of Claude 3.5 Sonnet (known for it's coding capabilities). The Cascade base model, while it can answer questions and maybe make small changes, it does require a lot more "encouragement" - clearly there is a reason we have access to Claude 3.5 otherwise, why use it?
Example: If you asked the base model to access your codebase and say add a new set of CRUD APIs that interact with a relational data model, it will do its best to tell you how "you" can achieve it, but it's a far cry from Claude 3.5 just jumping in and doing the work.
Another example: when debugging a CSS issue, the base model went into circles (and believe me, I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt), but after numerous attempts, I fell back onto Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and in a few short attempts, we had the answer to the issue I was facing.
As I said in my original post, the developer's experience matters. Claude 3.5 allows someone with limited experience to get far (and fast) without needing to know all the details of a language's syntax, available packages/libraries, etc. The whole point of Windsurf is to have an accelerated development environment.
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Bhavesh
Gevik NalbandianI I see. it seems the people who uses short prompts relies heavily on claude and o4. I cannot help with that you might have to fork out $$$ to do those as you are offloading the work to the AI to figure out what you mean.
so far I've built a lot with base cascade model by providing proper prompts. The output is similar to o4/claude. so far I've had to only use claude 3.5 where there are recurring issues on logic based
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Robert Croley
your pricing model has sent me the other way once already, with so much out there that's free or really cheap ya'll need to give this some thought, with such shallow limits I don't have the opportunity to get enamored with your tools, the likelihood of my spending much money is pretty close to evaporated. You're gonna have to do someting that nobody else does and do it really well for me to take the plunge.
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Adama B
Why should I have only 3000 cascade Flow Action credits when I have infinite usage of claud 3.5? That's an average of 100 flow per day limiting access to claude 3.5. For $60 I should have unlimited access to everything. Please kindly review the pricing. Many of us are heavy users working on multiple projects with different workflows each day.