Pro Ultimate is not so "Ultimate" if we're limited on 3000 Flow Credits.
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Dear Windsurf Team,
I'm writing to share feedback about the Pro Ultimate tier's 3000 credit limitation. While I understand the need for usage tiers, I believe the current structure could be enhanced in one of two ways to better align with the "Pro Ultimate" positioning:
Remove Credit Limitations The "Ultimate" in Pro Ultimate suggests unrestricted access. Having a credit cap seems to contradict this premium positioning. True "ultimate" access would mean unlimited usage, allowing users to fully leverage the platform's capabilities without constantly monitoring credit consumption.
Enhanced Premium Features If credit limits must remain, consider enhancing the Pro Ultimate tier by:
Providing access to more advanced AI models (e.g., GPT-4 Turbo or similar cutting-edge models)
Offering priority compute resources for faster response times
Including exclusive features not available in other tiers
Providing higher quality code completions and suggestions
Adding specialized domain expertise or industry-specific optimizations
These improvements would make the "Ultimate" designation more meaningful and provide clear differentiation from other tiers, justifying both the premium positioning and any usage limitations.
The goal is to ensure users feel they're getting a truly premium experience that matches the "Pro Ultimate" name, whether through unlimited usage or through significantly enhanced capabilities.
Best regards,
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Deepseek
I just tested , i would say the pricing is misleading , it's actually useless without a flow. E.g. it would cost a flow credit just to read a code....... If you have no flow credit LOL , u cant even read a file?
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Deepseek
The main issue from my perspective is , the flow sometimes execute useless "flows" or commands or actions that i totally don't need and yea that burns flows.
jussie souto
I paid for the Ultimate plan and really having an unlimited feature and the other one that is equivalent to twice the pro one is not worth it
Is it more worth buying the PRO and when you finish creating another account
Not to mention that in Ultimate to continue my project I bought 3x flex credits and the fourth time before I finished, I had used about 100 credits, the rest of them disappeared out of nowhere! I called support, they said they were going to check and after about 2 days they only sent a message about how I should use the platform it was literally a BUG of the platform I put in 10$ and 20 minutes later the extra credits went to 0
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Thomas Philipp
I've burned through all of the 3000 Flow Credits and got 1100 on top and still managed to use them in 3 days... and 75% was used for errors of the Coding agent... doing them over and over again, fixing stuff breaking stuff just to have 6 hours of code reconstruction.. yes i have Git now... and I'm still struggling constantly ...
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Thomas Philipp
I'm using 75% of my credits for bugs which are introduced and fixed a thousand times because the agent does not follow the basic rules which are defined in Memories, Global or Project rules... I'm going crazy.. we are permanently going back and forth... it's a sad truth... I can't handle my projekt without the assistant but I start to hate it also.. 75% is just unneccessary fixing of bugs from the code agent!!!!
So yeah... I consider this feature broken at the moment and the rate of 3000 is a joke under this circumstances... I'm constantly buying new credits and I'm still not going forward at the pace it should be...
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Serge
Thomas Philipp If Claude make a commit with bugs, its better to revert and have it try again. If you ask it to fix it the bugs it made, yes, you will go in a circle with 10s of edits, each causing new bugs.
Conrad Koh
As a workaround for anyone else, you might be far better off simply adding another subscription and cancelling immediately (aka $15 for another 1500 flow action credits).
The way the agent works, the user prompt credits are rarely the issue.
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Stefan
For 60 bucks it's a bit of a joke. That's 3x the price of cursor which places no such limit beyond throttling which has gotten substantially better recently. I'm switching back when my credits run out because there is 0 chance I'm paying additional money on top of the 60 dollars per month when the user experience isn't different/better enough to warrant it.
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Flakerim Ismani
It eats most of credits to understand you code.
bobbit
Standard "Pro" user ; i got down to my last 20 credits and discovered something useful;
if you treat the Ai as an entity , rather than some kind of bot, by writing a carefully crafted piece as one would to a colleague - the results are much better.
My final 20 interactions were likely more productive than the previous 100
scott plante
bobbit when I have to start spending more time crafting prompts that
should
be no-brainers instead of working on the code? Then yeah, it's usefulness as a tool is diminished significantly.Load More
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